Thursday, 25 October 2012

The Sin of LGBT - Part I



What is sin 

I know that I’m probably going to take a lot of flack for everything written in this new blog post of mine.  I’m sure that people on Facebook will de-friend me when I post this on Facebook.  That’s not what matters.  What matters is the truth.  What matters is the fact I want them to know I love them.  Love them so much that I want them to know what I believe to be true, and want them to have that same love.

Today, I’m bringing up a very touch subject.  This is going to be the first part of a few posts, as this isn’t just a simple topic, and does become quite complex.


The topic at hand today is this:  Homosexuality.

I’m not going to say that homosexuality is wrong.  Heck, if this was the me of 3 years ago, I’d probably be supporting you.  Unfortunately, I’m no longer the me of 3 years ago.  I’ve discovered the God of the Bible; the God that loves everyone on the face of this planet more than you know.  He desires a relationship with you.  There’s just one thing hindering you from that relationship – and that’s the sin in your life.  The sin of focus today is the sin of Homosexuality.  I’m not saying that liars, adulterers, fornicators are getting off the hook – oh yeah have I mentioned LIARS yet?  I just want you to know that I’m sure I’ve lied perhaps once today, perhaps even more than that.  I do my best to repent of this every day as I do desire to be loved.  I desire a relationship with my God and that relationship is brought to me through Jesus Christ.

For those that perhaps aren’t too religious – or Christian, I’m sure you’re already looking at a common passage from John
John 8:10-11 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

What I find interesting – is most people forget about the last part of verse 11.  Go and sin no more.  People are quick to point out “you shouldn’t judge”.  Now, did Jesus judge this woman?  I’d have to say yes, but he did not condemn her – now if you go and look at Matthew 7 verse 2 it talks about with what judgement you judge, ye too shall be judged.  Jesus condemned not that He too would not be condemned.

My question to you all would be – why did Jesus tell her to go and sin no more?  Because she’s loved.  There is a relationship that Jesus wants her to have with God.  When Jesus stared her in the face – this adulteress woman she was – she probably saw love for the very first time. 

Go & Sin no more!

You see, the God that I’ve come to know, I know that he doesn’t like any form of sin, and one of those sins is homosexuality.

People say “Oh, but I was born this way” – I don’t believe that.  I believe there were influences in a person’s life, their upbringing, a series of decisions/choices that led the person to the thought that “Oh, I’m different from most people as I have a preference for people of the same sex”.  I don’t believe that it was “one day I decided to be a homosexual” – I don’t believe that at all.  I too don’t believe that you were born that way.  The part were you believe you were born that way – and if you combine that with the Calvinist(a Christian denomination/viewpoint) that says you have no say on whether you can go to Heaven or not – it’s no wonder that Homosexuals would hate Christians.  Then again – I have my issues with Calvinism.

To have the idea that you were born a way(eventhough you weren’t) – and then be told by a church that you have no say on whether you’re going to Heaven or not, like really?  Where’s the love in that?  How is this the God that everyone says “God is love”?

This God is jealous for you.  This God is zealous for you!  This God desires a relationship with you.  The thing that separates this relationship is a lack of God in your life, a lack of Jesus in your life, and because of a lack of Jesus in your life – most importantly the sin in your life.

I know this is a topic that many people never want to bring up as Christians.  I can honestly say I don’t blame them.  Having a good chance at people hating you, not wanting to be your friends and other stuff – who knows what.  I say the things I’ve said so far, and will say more in upcoming posts about this topic, as it has yet to be addressed in a proper manner.

Before I end this – I’ll use this example for those thinking “I don’t want to hear this, I’ve heard it before”.

Imagine we’re driving in a car.  We’re going down some road at a fast speed.  I decide to drive in the wrong lane because I’d like to know what it feels like to drive on the left side of the road like people in England and other countries do.  There’s a car approaching.  I’m driving high in adrenaline and am now ready to play chicken.  You’re in the car with me.  Would you stay silent?  Or would you be freaking out at me due to the fact that we’re about to get in a car accident and possibly end up dead if I don’t switch lanes?  What would you do?

This is the exact same example with our lives and our sins.  Of course people may freak out, I’ll try my best to do this in a better and loving way, because I really do love you as I love myself.


6 comments:

  1. 1/2

    I understand your feelings towards others, and that you think you love me. I also understand you truly, deeply believe in this idiot's joke called GOD, especially the way you describe "him". You are highly spiritual and religious for "God". But you are a fool.

    For your own pride of religion, and you are so self centered on your own beliefs that you forget how stupid you are not to consider the naked truth. Naked meaning without anything guiding you or interfering with your judgement. All you are sharing is a mistake. You are only human, and you are making mistakes all the time. You are so strong on the fact the bible is "truth" that you forget what truth is. There are only two sides to the yin/yang, it's also unaffected by any "text". The truth is right here on earth, not on the bible.

    Truth is there are more gay people out there than there are of people like you who believe GLBT should be a sin, this would indicate to me "a logical person" that these people are more normal that you. There are more gay people than religious people, not by a few but by a LOT.

    You provide no argument other than stating "God's" wants and feelings. And you even have a relationship with this god. God is a character from your book called "the bible". This supreme being that wants a relationship with me too, and he loves me and.... ok tell him not to hold his breath... Or then, if it'l kill that god, tell it to hold it's breath so perhaps humanity can move on from this ridiculousness.

    God is not a thing you build a relationship with. People who build relationships with invisible people that communicate feelings and words to them are considered crazy, and they are medicated to help with that. It usually makes the voices go away... :), okay I'm getting carried away a little, but hey... I'm immature a little, and since I don't believe in God... I'm not afraid to use my uniqueness. Still, what you are saying has no validity. You have no reasonable argument about why it would be unacceptable, unreasonable or even bad, to be gay.

    I've been able to get to know many gay people, and I've discovered that there are many reasons why someone would be gay. THEY ARE born this way, at least most are. Most people in general are born bisexual. Even religious people are mostly born bisexual, why else would the USA have all these conversion camps with 0% success rate unless the person has an IQ of 60 or less. The only factor which prevents acting out on this bisexuality for many people is psychological. I call it the placebo effect.

    It was a quick discovery that even if you give 1000 people a pill, telling them it's will make them feel better, a great amount of people will report side effects, even feeling better... Even if that pill had nothing in it but a shell. So many people are simply walking around not considering sex with the same sex... Doesn't mean if they get stuck on an island they will not consider it. And if you want to do some lab tests... well they have been done... Even pornographic websites make billions off of taking "proud" straight men and converting them. Trust me I'm not a christian... I love that saying ;)

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  2. 2/2

    Many people don't know how to discover who they are, because they have regimes to control them. A Biblical regime is just as bad for your own health as it is to the ones you are saying are sinning for being gay, when in reality they are just living their lives in their own natural states aside from the unnatural interference from the regimes around them. We know what a sin makes you feel like, it's a wrong thing. Yet you would opinion-ate yourself to say that you think being gay is a sin, and your only justification for telling more people than you can count that they are sinning is because "the bible" says so. But if you learn to discover who you are, you also learn in the process to understand a lot more. You also learn that the discovery never ends, there is only the naked truth that stays the same, and that must eat you up inside. All of your problems, come from you ignoring that. I know you have many because you'd rather escape from them and write about the GLBT.

    On top of that your subject in a way you aren't really minding your own business. You go in the middle of other people’s lives and say that it's a sin, but without any validity. Only that if we were driving in a car and you were in the wrong lane etc... I would try my best to avoid the collision, taking control of the vehicle. If necessary make sure to get out of the way of the opposing traffic... No one else should die because of your stupidity. But exactly what i'd due is my adrenaline would go up and I would begin to panick a little. Just like if I am gay, being with another guy that I like makes me feel just like you would feel like if you were with a girl that you like, because you are straight..

    But being gay isn't driving in the wrong direction of anything... Life has only one direction... Leads to death... Anyways... It's just a different road, or PATH as you religious monkeys would say. And the sooner you realize that an almost infinite amount of people can be born with an almost infinite amount of paths to live, and that your "God" has no say in that nonsense, you will learn who you really are. You will learn the truth. Unfortunately your addiction called "God" isn't in truth at all.

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  3. BONUS COMMENT ;)

    We agree on one thing though, Calvinism is wrong. We may not agree why though...

    When churches realized it was losing all of it's followers due to the nonsense you still believe in, (people evolved and became better while the church remained the same) some people began making other different religions with alterations in order to keep collecting followers and their resources. Making different factions doesn't change the problem.

    There are many empires, and in the end because of different faiths... IN THE END, they will FIGHT for having the LAST WORD... because to them it's TRUTH.

    Just like Calvinism you are a different version of the original BIBLE...

    It's not like everyone's going to start to join the same church and then we will be happy... We have to accept we are all different and that's that.. But that doesn't mean we have to stop using logic and our intelligence.

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  4. Ok – so this “idiot's joke called GOD” - may I ask you who this so called “idiot” is that started it? I for one don't believe that an idiot started it – I do believe that “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:”(II Timothy 3:16 to be true). So the fact you call this a joke – I find interesting. Wow – you should watch just who you call a fool – for the fool says there is no God(Psalms 14:1) – and presently as I speak that is you who says there is no God. I have no pride of religion – I only take pride in one thing, and that is what God has done through His Son, Jesus. You say I'm self-centered on my own beliefs that I forget how stupid I am to not consider the naked truth. What's interesting is that I'm not self-centered, I do my best to live a God centered life. You say that it's “naked meaning without anything guiding you or interfering with your judgement”.

    Well there is One who guides me...have ye not ever read the book? I John 2:27 - But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. You are right when you say the truth is here on earth – it just so happens to be written in the Bible which is found here on earth. If you perhaps decided to read the Bible with an open mind you would see such things. I advise you to go based on what the Bible says – not on what teachers say. I advise you to go based on what Jesus says in the Bible – not what churches do, not what priests or pastors say, just go based on what Jesus said.

    You said something very interesting.......”Truth is there are more gay people out there than there are of people like you who believe GLBT should be a sin, this would indicate to me "a logical person" that these people are more normal that you. There are more gay people than religious people, not by a few but by a LOT.” - now would you say we live in a world where we have good people? Then why are so many people starving and other things? Why are the rich getting richer as the poor get poorer? You say there are more gay people than religious people. Now we don't have to stick with “gay” - but we could just easily say there are more irreligious people than there are religious people – yet tell me why the world is so bad? Why?

    You want reasons as to why homosexuality would be bad? Well – as you saw the title of the post – it's part 1. You'll just have to be patient for part 2,3,etc

    The “pill” analogy – although has a great point – if you knew what you were saying; you believe religion to be an emptiness because you don't believe in God. I'm not saying you have to, I'd like you to, but ultimately it is your choice. Now – keep in mind what you said earlier, calling me self-centered. Yet you make choices everyday based on what you believe to be right. Well, if we use that logic, someone who murders maybe he enjoys murdering, and perhaps he things its right in his own head, but who deemed that murders were wrong? Who deemed that lying is wrong? Who deemed that all these “wrong things” are wrong?

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  5. Part 2

    Wow – you started this next response with the magic sentence - “ Many people don't know how to discover who they are, because they have regimes to control them” - unfortunately it is the regimes that control them, usually not a “religious” type of regime. I didn't know who I was until about 3 years ago....oh and wait, what's the Bible say about that? Matthew 10 [39] He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

    Who said, that because I found God I've stopped seeking to discover stuff? You are right though – the discovery never ends. Every day I find a new truth to support the “naked truth” and that naked truth is that everyone on the face of this planet sins. Lying is a sin – just as much as homosexuality is a sin. I'm pretty sure I made myself clear in stating that throughout the message. What eats me up inside is this: If everyone would attempt to follow the 10 commandments of God, for just one day......not even – if everyone where to just follow the 2 great commandments as Jesus said: Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind – and love your neighbour as yourself, I know the World would be a very different place. It would be a paradise. The problem is, nobody loves their neighbour as themselves(eventhough they say they do). The problem is that everyone doesn't love their neighbour as themselves because nobody is willing to give. So it's always “well he did this to me, so I'm not going to do this for him”, etc. Of course – you can't give something to someone that you don't have. If I asked you for a million dollars – you couldn't give it to me, unless you had it in a bank account somewhere. So – how can you truly love someone, if you yourself aren't loved? How can you love someone if you don't have love to give. I know that people believe they want to love someone, and they want to love their neighbours as themselves – as it sounds beautiful – the only thing is they don't know how to love.

    You say my problems are many because I write about the GLBT – yet obviously you haven't read the other posts that show how bad the church is, or how much the church lacks its own God. If I could write 1 million blog posts a day about all the stuff that's causing this World to be in the bad state that its in, I would. Unfortunately, I work, I also do meet up with friends and go out and stuff, so I don't always get an opportunity to write all thoughts at one time. I cannot stand reading a blog that's 20 pages long, although I can tell you love writing long winded novels, but I can't stand reading long blogs – so they become about a page or so, this allows people to read and get something out of it, and if needed – it gets divided into parts. I just haven't written the following parts that would support everything in this blog and go into greater detail – which are valid points you're bringing up. Keep following – as you will eventually get part 2.

    As for life only has one way – death. I disagree. There's 2 ways, a narrow way and a broad way. The broad way leads to death, but the narrow way leads to life(read Matthew 7 for the entire context). Perhaps this is where we agree to disagree, nonetheless – this is what I know to be true. It also just so happens to coincide with the Matthew 10:39 passage mentioned above.

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  6. Part 3 -

    You are right when you say: “that an almost infinite amount of people can be born with an almost infinite amount of paths to live” - unfortunately my God(aka Jesus) did have a say about this and I mentioned it already. How you said that is perfect. There is almost an infinite amount of paths to live – that would lead to death. Yet again – there is one narrow way that leads to life.

    What's interesting – is with all the bad stuff that's going on in the World – one politician that is still brought up for how great he was, a very peaceful man and everything else is Gandhi. What did Gandhi do? He read Matthew 5-7 every day for the last 30-40 years of his life. He may not have been a Christian – but it says something about how powerful those chapters are. Keep in mind – that those 3 chapters have 1 or 2 verses only that is not Jesus speaking and that's the first couple of verses from Matthew 5.
    Calvinism is wrong – for many reasons, as for the reasons we disagree – I'm sure you disagree simply because you don't believe things said in the Bible.

    I love your other statement: “When churches realized it was losing all of it's followers due to the nonsense you still believe in, (people evolved and became better while the church remained the same)”. If people became better – can you tell me why the World is as messed up as it is? I think the World is worse than it's ever been. Politics show this, the monetary system shows this, everything that we can look at reflects this and as you said - “when churches realized it was losing all its followers due to the nonsense I still believe in – the church started teaching things that were perhaps biblical yet taken out of context – and started teaching those things in churches to keep people going and people to continue “tithing” and all that other BS! Reality of it is – the truth hurts, it always has and always will, churches realized that the truth of the Bible hurt – so they started teaching another “gospel”.

    One thing I have to disagree with you on – you say we are all different – yet that's exactly what the Pharisee said: Luke 18:11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.

    The pharisee couldn't see himself as other men are, he couldn't see himself even as the publican(because a publican is a sinner) – but oh that religious Pharisee wasn't(or so he thought) – the truth of the matter is – we are all sinners, we are all alike in that common denominator. The thing is – we have to realize that, and repent of it.

    When I say I'm a Christian – I'm not saying I'm better than homosexuals – I'm saying I need help, just as much as the next person.

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